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Major Stallion



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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kai page wrote:
IRON have been anchroing towers in dek, GD (DORM) are talking to IRON + NC To save there MoM which comes out in 10days time in S-D.


after what he just accomplished by destroying Tri, I doubt he'll see any remorse from IRON and HIGHLY doubt he'll have DORM granted membership in IRON, let alone any 0.0 space holding alliance.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's quite sad to see a once tremendously powerful alliance like IRON reduced to napping the entire north in order for it to secure some space. The question is, do they plan to actually defend it this time?

Does IRON plan on remaining in the Northern Napfest for mutual survival?
Are they going to abandon their drone region holdings now that they can take valuable space?

Should be interesting to watch how they pan out & how different they are from the IRON that abandoned Deklein a year ago.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IRON has always been blue to the northern entities in some form or another. Difference with IRON now is that they took on a lot of what I would call dead weight from the merge with invictus.

They have however gained a lot of their old directorship back, so it should be interesting to see what they do next.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real wildcard here are RA and Goons, as was mentioned RA dropped 5 towers in EC...and they have a severe love of valuable moons...so, will RA "allow" Iron and others to take these valuable moons?

Iron dropped 3 towers in EC earlier in the week, which RA was certainly aware of, so by putting 5 of their own up they are sending a message.

I doubt RA want the space, but they certainly want the moons...will anyone stand up to them?
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nvm
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ra have taken Ec-p8r today
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as for the moons,

in ec-p8r there is one neodymium and one technetium moon, thats the best you can get there.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that an alliance is actually capable to grab high end moons all over the map and defend them is the best proof you can get that the pos system is horribly broken
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turkantho wrote:
that an alliance is actually capable to grab high end moons all over the map and defend them is the best proof you can get that the pos system is horribly broken


Don't blame the POS system if you are afraid to stop them from taking more.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NATMav wrote:
Turkantho wrote:
that an alliance is actually capable to grab high end moons all over the map and defend them is the best proof you can get that the pos system is horribly broken


Don't blame the POS system if you are afraid to stop them from taking more.


This ,why donīt you fight back?
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kai page wrote:
Ra have taken Ec-p8r today


are they keeping it an open port?
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NATMav wrote:
Turkantho wrote:
that an alliance is actually capable to grab high end moons all over the map and defend them is the best proof you can get that the pos system is horribly broken


Don't blame the POS system if you are afraid to stop them from taking more.

Wait, you're implying that curling up and running away isn't a successful strategy? Clearly you're a madman and they're taking the moons because of POS mechanics, not because people don't have the guts to actually fight back.

Bottom line is if someone's not willing to fight for what they have/want to have, they deserve to have it taken away from them.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes
I don't fucking care about moons, to me it's just a general design flaw that you can basically live all the way down south, and if your cyno net is good you can own moons on the other end of the map, all you need to ensure that you keep those moons is a good enough cyno net to move your whole damn cap fleet, which tbh is far to easy to move, and just get there to blob the system with 100+ caps to protect the pos, when the reinforce timer ends.

If I had it my way moons would deplete and once they are depleted a previous moon in the same system / constellation that previously had no moon mins or less valuable mins whould have the new supply of the moon goo, and don't come me but how do you explain that this moon which previously was shit is yummy now. Does belt respawn needs a reason ? It's a fucking game and static moon goo makes it less interesting
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Mistress Suffering



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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turkantho was basically just saying that a single super-power (RA) now has such ease of mobility that it can control POS all over space with enough force to hold onto them.

I think he's wrong in identifying POS strength as the reason for this though. Sure, POS mechanics favor the defender and allow you to defend at a time of your choosing, but really its the logistical ease of redeployment which allows them to hold POS all over.

"Willing to fight for" has nothing to do with it. If you think an alliance the size of Ev0ke is going to win a stand up fight against RA, your tactical sense is really bad. The key here is that when the mega-alliances can reach out and touch at such a distant range, it removes the standard fallback of the smaller alliance, which is to simply claim space that is less valuable such that it isn't worth the super-power's time to address.

That's becoming less the case now.
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