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Helen



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oi - Ogron wrote:
Current status this evening:

Tri running about with 70 man cap gang and 60 support. PA spotted with 60 BS + 10 support. 100+ Insurgency hiding in QCWA at this moment.

Intel says that Tri are hitting Cyno Jammed system in Pure space apparently. They have several caps including a Nyx logged off in a rape cage POS in Branch.

Nothing major (afaik) has happened yet.


what the gentle jesus is a rape cage pos?
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen wrote:

what the gentle jesus is a rape cage pos?


When a pos is destroyed, and replaced by a large (or several large) bubbles, so that when people who logged out in what was a "safe" space (the pos itself) log back in they will ostensibly warp in to a bubble, and if they log out will gain aggro, or have to slowboat out of the bubble.

If you hadn't guessed, the terms origins can be traced to goonfleet.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Presumably a hostile POS surrounded by multiple anchored bubbles and people watching them at all times?



As for the PURE, TRI is hitting one of their stations as I type this. Opening up a second front is an interesting move, especially given the strain it's going to cause to PURE FCs, who are apparently already leading a large number of the train fleets up in the North.


I hope the way the conflict is broken into multiple smaller ones means that something actually happens instead of non-conclusive Mexican stand-offs and ganks every now and then :p
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thetwilitehour wrote:
Helen wrote:

what the gentle jesus is a rape cage pos?


When a pos is destroyed, and replaced by a large (or several large) bubbles, so that when people who logged out in what was a "safe" space (the pos itself) log back in they will ostensibly warp in to a bubble, and if they log out will gain aggro, or have to slowboat out of the bubble.

If you hadn't guessed, the terms origins can be traced to goonfleet.

Ya the first real use of it was when the coalition took QY6. Goons setup large bubbles at all of the former BoB pos's, especially at what had been the staging pos. Tacklers were kept at all the pos locations and a steady stream of GBC pilots logged in, got stuck in the bubbles where the pos they had logged out at used to be and were tackled/killed (including a carrier or two if memory serves).

Most effective if the enemy had a staging post that was used for a while and in the first 12 hours or so. People click their character screen, go grab a beer and come back to find themselves in a new clone.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rape cage pos is where all pos mods are incapped, anchored bubble all around and camped. This tactic didn't come from Goons. It was used much earlier, during the early days of the Feythabolis campaign by BOB
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Monkeysphere wrote:

As for the PURE, TRI is hitting one of their stations as I type this. Opening up a second front is an interesting move, especially given the strain it's going to cause to PURE FCs, who are apparently already leading a large number of the train fleets up in the North.

I hope the way the conflict is broken into multiple smaller ones means that something actually happens instead of non-conclusive Mexican stand-offs and ganks every now and then :p


I'm just curious as to how you see this as 'opening a second front'. And in fact on the whole im wondering how this is following any reasonable course of action.

If you are going to be focusing your efforts in Pure space then Insurgency space will fall all the quicker. Leaving you without your buffer/ally. As it is Insurgency have spent the entire evening sitting inside POS's in QCWA while the coalition fleet runs rampant through the contellation killing and incapping POS's. We have a large number of FC's fully capable of leading the fleets up here, and the FC's so far have done an awesome job.

If you think that this attack will make the NC fall back I think you will be sorely mistaken.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sil wrote:
rape cage pos is where all pos mods are incapped, anchored bubble all around and camped. This tactic didn't come from Goons. It was used much earlier, during the early days of the Feythabolis campaign by BOB


the term was coined by goons tho.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

<- not in TRI/blue to any other entity in this conflict jfyi



As for this not breaking up the naptrain, isn't this effectively giving Trisurgency 2 staging points on opposing sides?
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oi - Ogron wrote:
The Monkeysphere wrote:

As for the PURE, TRI is hitting one of their stations as I type this. Opening up a second front is an interesting move, especially given the strain it's going to cause to PURE FCs, who are apparently already leading a large number of the train fleets up in the North.

I hope the way the conflict is broken into multiple smaller ones means that something actually happens instead of non-conclusive Mexican stand-offs and ganks every now and then :p


I'm just curious as to how you see this as 'opening a second front'. And in fact on the whole im wondering how this is following any reasonable course of action.

If you are going to be focusing your efforts in Pure space then Insurgency space will fall all the quicker. Leaving you without your buffer/ally. As it is Insurgency have spent the entire evening sitting inside POS's in QCWA while the coalition fleet runs rampant through the contellation killing and incapping POS's. We have a large number of FC's fully capable of leading the fleets up here, and the FC's so far have done an awesome job.

If you think that this attack will make the NC fall back I think you will be sorely mistaken.


or maybe something else is coming into this equation? Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cptn Chaos wrote:
sil wrote:
rape cage pos is where all pos mods are incapped, anchored bubble all around and camped. This tactic didn't come from Goons. It was used much earlier, during the early days of the Feythabolis campaign by BOB


the term was coined by goons tho.


No. First time the term was used consistantly was during the bob vs ascn police action in Feyth thing, by DICE guys.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Monkeysphere wrote:
<- not in TRI/blue to any other entity in this conflict jfyi



As for this not breaking up the naptrain, isn't this effectively giving Trisurgency 2 staging points on opposing sides?


Apologies, ive seen OSHI.. associated with Tri for so long it's a hard habbit to break. And no, I don't believe it will give them two staging points at all. It will be Tri staging from one place, and Insurgency stuck in QCWA without their friends. The entire Jump bridge network for Ins into the QCWA constellation is down and they will have a hard time doing logistics with 200 screaming NC'ers waiting to jump onto any Cyno seen in the area. Recent carrier kills are testiment to that.

With Tri away doing stuff in Pure space Ins will be hemmed into this constellation and die. Once that's complete.. well, we'll just have to see.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't kill this thread after only 3 pages please



//edit: on another note, VSQ seems to lose carriers pretty much every other day now :S

http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=11458&scl_id=27
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so after sitting about for 6 hours tonight current status:

NC have been incapping and completely destroying JB modules etc. Cap fleet has been re-inforcing POS's and taking down those coming out of re-inforced (i believe). Nothing has been seen of Tri all night, obviously. 60 man PA BS gang went with Tri to Pure space. Small number of light and medium ships from Insurgency have been in and out of QCWA/B80 in the later hours of the evening causing disruption.

So basically a night of not too much interesting happening.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Monkeysphere wrote:
Don't kill this thread after only 3 pages please



//edit: on another note, VSQ seems to lose carriers pretty much every other day now :S

http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=11458&scl_id=27


What in the world is VSQ doing with those carriers that those guys keep managing to catch them? Do they just have their staging point camped or something?
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oi - Ogron wrote:
The Monkeysphere wrote:
<- not in TRI/blue to any other entity in this conflict jfyi



As for this not breaking up the naptrain, isn't this effectively giving Trisurgency 2 staging points on opposing sides?


Apologies, ive seen OSHI.. associated with Tri for so long it's a hard habbit to break. And no, I don't believe it will give them two staging points at all. It will be Tri staging from one place, and Insurgency stuck in QCWA without their friends. The entire Jump bridge network for Ins into the QCWA constellation is down and they will have a hard time doing logistics with 200 screaming NC'ers waiting to jump onto any Cyno seen in the area. Recent carrier kills are testiment to that.

With Tri away doing stuff in Pure space Ins will be hemmed into this constellation and die. Once that's complete.. well, we'll just have to see.


Holy overconfidence batman seriously though dude post FACTS and WHATS happening not what might happen... I beleive you already had this confilict sewn up and INSURG were destroyed and living in empire/pf-q oh wait that just happened in your "Might happen" thoughts.
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