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Bruce Boyako



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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mistress Suffering wrote:
So why are all the DORM guys on his Nyx loss?


If you look at the insurg nid that went down, its the same; same DORM guy topped that mail too. From what I gleaned in irc, smartbombs coupled with fighters auto-aggressing, mixed in with lag, left some trisurg capitals with insane damage totals on friendlies. One tri (i think?) dude was saying his mothership's fighters were on another friendly mothership for 10 minutes before he could reign them in.

sucks a bit, but.

e:fb
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TheAdj



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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had the same thing happen to a carrier last week, he was smartbombing, hit a nyx, and the nyx's fighters went after the carrier and did a shitload of damage, it's a mixture of lag and smartbomb damage over a long period of time.
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Elliott Manchild



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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I heard it was auto aggro.

Not a great thing to wake up to when you already feel like crap ;p

Anyway lag aside GJ to RZR and co etc.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd think that running 3 smartbombs for a prolonged period of time (his fit) that GD's fighters would have died sooner than they did to do 80k damage.

His fit was ok, A-type hardeners and some of the cheaper officer mods, if you want fat loot you wanna kill the other D00M. Mommys Wink

BTW, thanks for the birthday present RzR Razz Although it makes me fairly sad to see the amount of Cap losses TRI are taking after a year with only 6 losses I think it was? They used to be so careful with caps. Isk wise, you're probably nearly equal as far as actual ships go now right?
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TheAdj



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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XxAngelxX wrote:
You'd think that running 3 smartbombs for a prolonged period of time (his fit) that GD's fighters would have died sooner than they did to do 80k damage.

His fit was ok, A-type hardeners and some of the cheaper officer mods, if you want fat loot you wanna kill the other D00M. Mommys Wink

BTW, thanks for the birthday present RzR Razz Although it makes me fairly sad to see the amount of Cap losses TRI are taking after a year with only 6 losses I think it was? They used to be so careful with caps. Isk wise, you're probably nearly equal as far as actual ships go now right?


Send all the thank you ISK to me please.

Reinforcing all the towers in 4dt/d4r/eqi right now, saved some towers coming out in EQI.
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Lowa [NSN]



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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheAdj wrote:
Reinforcing all the towers in 4dt/d4r/eqi right now, saved some towers coming out in EQI.

Well, in all honesty, you havent touched d4r or 4dt yet. Wink
Night isnt over though so I have no doubt I will read more on this for breakfast. Make it a good read pls. Smile


Cheers,
Lowa
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pesadelo



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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XxAngelxX wrote:
You'd think that running 3 smartbombs for a prolonged period of time (his fit) that GD's fighters would have died sooner than they did to do 80k damage.

His fit was ok, A-type hardeners and some of the cheaper officer mods, if you want fat loot you wanna kill the other D00M. Mommys Wink

BTW, thanks for the birthday present RzR Razz Although it makes me fairly sad to see the amount of Cap losses TRI are taking after a year with only 6 losses I think it was? They used to be so careful with caps. Isk wise, you're probably nearly equal as far as actual ships go now right?


Donīt seem so titan loose and all.
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Oi - Ogron



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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have removed my "nobody wants to read your pole up my ass superiority complex driven smack"
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pointless reply to even more pointless post removed MOAR battle reports less lollerskates/smack please Wink
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oi - Ogron wrote:
Tri's killboard is another story entirely. The only alliance they have in positive efficiency is Razor, which can be attributed to the Titan kill at the beginning of the campaign. Even that is only at 57% and slowly dropping with each fight we win and each capital loss they take.
Killboard efficiency is retarded tbh, especially to only look at them for one alliance at the time. With the MM/RZR/IRON & co (is there a fancy name for those yet?) having mixed fleets with several different alliances, makes them all have uber stats on the killboard.

Tri has fielded their capitals lots of times, I wasnt with them when they took the first stations in Deklein, but in the campaigns against FS/Mpire Youwhat, CVA and SmashKilll the caps were used a lot, with almost no losses. This war is a lot different, and it is inevitable that Tri loses some caps in fleet fights, but seeing them getting ganked in silly ways is a bit sad.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ElweSingollo wrote:
pointless reply to even more pointless post removed MOAR battle reports less lollerskates/smack please Wink


that was my thought. Just post how/how many/why, nobody wants to read your pole up my ass superiority complex driven smack.

looks like CCP needs to fix auto aggro to account for their inability to prevent gamebreaking lag.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

omg, their k:d ratio!

there's way too many shit posts to be able to discern, so could someone make an informative post on the situation in branch (in terms of station systems and stuffs)
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Oi - Ogron



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Current situation.

NC holds LXWN and BKG station systems.

Trisurgency currently hold 4DT and EQI station systems.

NC is currently removing and incapping Cyno Jammer and Jump bridges in Z-K (first system after BKG). NC POS's in EQI that were re-inforced have come out and been repped i believe. Insurgency POS's to come out of reinforced in Z-K over the next few hours.

Currently NC holds the pipe up to and through the two hostile station systems. Only very small engagements at the moment, with small gangs ganking loners and stragglers on gates. No serious hostile force has been seen in Z-K after the cap loss battle this afternoon.
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Aypse



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brunswick2 wrote:
post on the situation in branch (in terms of station systems and stuffs)


Both sides are achieving their short-term objectives tbh. TRISurge seems to be largely content with retaking & refortifying lost systems (4dt, d4r, and eqi). The Northern Coalition have seemed to accept the fact that they will not be able to retake them now that they have been lost.

The NC have appeared to focus their efforts in the last week or so in keeping bkg well fortified & almost perma-camped. When they have numbers, they strike out against moon mining & logistic POSes in non-station systems. TRISurge FCs seem unconcerned about the losses of these non-essential & mostly placeholder POSes. Again, it appears TRISurge command is focus on securing station systems & letting pilots take a breather before the next major push.

I know that some of the posters above seem to have some tinfoil explanations on the recent increased losses of capitals. From my perspective, its very simple. I have been in TRI since Deklein was secured & we have never deployed capitals with the frequency & numbers that we are in this campaign. When you put more capitals on the field, more die, its not very complex tbh. The reason we are placing some many capitals on the field is because during the majority of timezones, we are outnumbered, and we are outnumbered quite heavily. Carriers & moms are in heavy use repping POSes, moving supplies, & bolstering our lower numbers of support with fighters & remote reps.

It's easy to say, 'TRI never lost capitals like this before' or whatever. The fact is, TRI carriers have never (since I have been here) been asked to provide such a 24/7 on-the-front-line role as we are asking them to do currently. I am sure some capital pilots are uncomfortable with this. From what I have seen though, most capital pilots love it, myself included. I don't know about anyone, but I didn't buy an archon & revelation so that it could get dusty in a hanger. I want my capitals with dents, scapes, & scars.....because that shit is fun as hell. So go ahead, cruticize us for some of the capitals we have lost....but we are having fun.

A big 'thank you' to the NC for providing tons of fun. Let's hope this war rages on for forever!
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aypse wrote:
Brunswick2 wrote:
post on the situation in branch (in terms of station systems and stuffs)


Both sides are achieving their short-term objectives tbh. TRISurge seems to be largely content with retaking & refortifying lost systems (4dt, d4r, and eqi). The Northern Coalition have seemed to accept the fact that they will not be able to retake them now that they have been lost.



Thats why we RF about 6 insurge towers in eqi tonight?
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