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Dianabolic
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Location: Reikoku, TAFKA the Band of Brothers
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We haven't alarm clocked for a while now, hydraSlav.
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Haargoth Agamar
Joined: 26 Nov 2006
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Location: Goonswarm lol
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| hydraSlav wrote: | What an epic fight! BoB wants nothing more than to have a simple epic fights!
Thats why they call alarm clock ops at 4am to hit a station system, even though when we were assembled they largely outnumbered us. And then they use TS spies to wait for the fleet break to be given, and DD inside the POS and proceed to exploit the "game mechanics" by looting and bumping survivors out, even though they outnumbered us 4 to 1.
Thats all BoB wants of course, a fair epic fight... Congratulations, you managed to downgrade the word "epic" from grandiose to below lame. That takes skill. |
You think MC cared about fair fights when they attacked us with RSF? No. Now that the shoe is on the other foot you shouldn't really be crying about the fights not being fair.
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cleisthenes
Joined: 05 Jun 2007
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Location: UK, Versatech Co./Blade.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Yalson wrote: | | Javon Bars wrote: |
The way I see it this isn't as far-fetched as it may seem actually, but it would've required BoB to have died instead of being alive, kicking and holding space. Also half of tortuga not having left. |
This is pretty close, actually. As for pesadelo's comment: what exactly are you expecting to see in terms of defense: 200 capitals including RA and GS support riding in on a chariot  ? Though.. now that I think of it, that actually would have some merit. |
Not expecting anything for you guys at all anymore Yalson so we will just keep grinding at your poses. EIMJ- poses will all be reinforced shortly, 1 large left
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Astasia
Joined: 14 May 2007
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Location: Bobbit Central
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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I love it when people get all emoburned about dd with pospw or whatever. Surely you know how utterly hilarious it is to be doing it, to be on TS while it's being done, etc? To see the enemy cry in local about it. Events like that are the comedy highlight of an evening, not some scummylowdirtytrix.
To try and claim ehonour is to deny comedy, and everyone likes a good laugh!
Also re alarm clocking, we haven't done it in ages now. Our USTZ has expanded significantly, particularly under certain FCs. Last night everyone who showed up for H74 just decided to stay up all night to hit Pbasis because it was worth it. Not saying we won't do it if we choose to, cos it's another weapon in the arsenal, but yeah, there is huge enthusiasm for splatting MC. |
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Yalson
Joined: 23 Sep 2006
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Location: AAA - BDCI
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Would MC do it, if they had our pos pwd? (I think the answer to this is yes) |
I find it quite sad that you truly believe that. Heck, we've handed back carriers that _allies_ of ours bumped out of POS for which they obtained passwords (Chowdown, to be precise). But as others have said, it doesn't matter -- you guys have your fun, get to work on the PR, and in a few weeks all of this is going to be a non-issue.
So.. let's keep it in game?
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EnacheV1
Joined: 30 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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IMO BoB wants you out of period basis asap so they couldnt care less of the tactic they deploy. I think they just want to close the MC chapter.
I want to remember one thing, some 4-5months ago ?, we had an outbreak guy with alts in our corp, we got some stories about how the first assault of tortuga on bob was, the cheering about how their dread fleet melted bob towers in 3 minutes, the joy, the excitement, though no bob was in that systems (till tpar) because they were busy with most of 0.0 eve (the part that matters). Kinda made me sik.
So don't cry now about honor.
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Haargoth Agamar
Joined: 26 Nov 2006
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Location: Goonswarm lol
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Yalson wrote: | | Dianabolic wrote: |
Would MC do it, if they had our pos pwd? (I think the answer to this is yes) |
I find it quite sad that you truly believe that. Heck, we've handed back carriers that _allies_ of ours bumped out of POS for which they obtained passwords (Chowdown, to be precise). But as others have said, it doesn't matter -- you guys have your fun, get to work on the PR, and in a few weeks all of this is going to be a non-issue.
So.. let's keep it in game? |
Its pretty understandable why he would think that with the way your alliance has been conducting itself this year.
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Mistress Suffering
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Location: Einherjar Rising (CH)
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| EnacheV1 wrote: | IMO BoB wants you out of period basis asap so they couldnt care less of the tactic they deploy. I think they just want to close the MC chapter.
I want to remember one thing, some 4-5months ago ?, we had an outbreak guy with alts in our corp, we got some stories about how the first assault of tortuga on bob was, the cheering about how their dread fleet melted bob towers in 3 minutes, the joy, the excitement, though no bob was in that systems (till tpar) because they were busy with most of 0.0 eve (the part that matters). Kinda made me sik.
So don't cry now about honor.
Battle reports would be better. |
Comparing being glad they had a giant fleet with feeling smug about DD'ing through a POS thanks to spying isn't even close. I'm sorry personal honor is so out of vogue these days that you don't even recognize the difference.
That's a flaw CCP should fix. If you're really sharp, you can even find my post saying the exact same thing when the target was BoB. |
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Astasia
Joined: 14 May 2007
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Location: Bobbit Central
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Also, various amusing parts of today aside, they have 4 outposts in the constellation so their sov4 should last a good while unless they put in no effort whatsoever. |
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Nick Curso
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Yalson wrote: | | Dianabolic wrote: |
Would MC do it, if they had our pos pwd? (I think the answer to this is yes) |
I find it quite sad that you truly believe that. Heck, we've handed back carriers that _allies_ of ours bumped out of POS for which they obtained passwords (Chowdown, to be precise). But as others have said, it doesn't matter -- you guys have your fun, get to work on the PR, and in a few weeks all of this is going to be a non-issue.
So.. let's keep it in game? |
You do realise this is eve right? it's a harsh, cut throat world its ment to be, If you go around acting all nights in shining armor with this holyer than thou attitude, then you will never be successful as a real space holding entity.
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Onchas
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Location: BNC.E/BoB
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Since we're just chatt'n it up in here...
Killing MC is fun, frankly. It's good to get payback. But more in the, "your buddy fucked your ex-girlfriend the day after you broke up so you're having a three-some with his current girlfriend and 21 y/o bi-curious sister" kinda way.
Definitely the vast majority of the rank-n-file members (of which I am one) want to see MC bleed for their transgressions. Bleed. Not die in a fire.
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Yalson
Joined: 23 Sep 2006
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Location: AAA - BDCI
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Nick Curso wrote: | | You do realise this is eve right? it's a harsh, cut throat world its ment to be, If you go around acting all nights in shining armor with this holyer than thou attitude, then you will never be successful as a real space holding entity. |
Yeah, but you are talking to an Ex-FIXian. We see things a bit differently -- playing dirty doesn't go down well with general MC (or Tortugan) membership, as far as I can tell. There are entities who cater to that style of playing. Me, I'm still miffed that some really even contemplated suicide ganking freighters an acceptable way of fighting BOB 
And I fully understand the payback approach, Onchas. As a BOB member I'd be putting in extra hours to achieve that goal as well. Personally, I wish we'd been able to provide you with some entertainment in the process, but unfortunately I do not always get what I wish for.
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Thol
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Yalson wrote: | | Yeah, but you are talking to an Ex-FIXian. We see things a bit differently -- playing dirty doesn't go down well with general MC (or Tortugan) membership, as far as I can tell. There are entities who cater to that style of playing. Me, I'm still miffed that some really even contemplated suicide ganking freighters an acceptable way of fighting BOB |
I think MC played the dirty card first when they took gifts with one hand and planted a knife in bobs back with the other. We have no problem with using every allowed ingame tactic that is possible on you guys. Simply because watching people that tried to profit of your (assumed) downfall go down in flames is fucking awesome. Our participation is higher as well, since nobody likes a traitor.
It's what you get when the people in charge think they and their members are gods gift to eve. Cus bob was playing like it was 2006, right?
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Pilk
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Kazanir wrote: | | I see the BoB forum posting brigade has returned in force. |
1) Don't be a twit. Add something to the thread.
2) I'd like to go on record saying that doomsdaying through active, online POS shields, regardless of the circumstances, is pretty damn shitty.
3) Why is MC in a situation where it's giving out POS passwords to begin with? Why is there not an "allied" POS, if not a POS for every alliance in Tortuga? You've had plenty of time to prepare.
4) I wish there were a way to generate clear statistics as to which is a better recruitment incentive--e-honour or K/D ratio.
My guess is that neither is startlingly important, but both have a threshold factor to them. In other words, I won't fly for a group that falls below a certain threshold of K/D ratio or e-honour. In K/D ratio's case, it needn't even be positive for me to stay onboard, but it reflects how much fun I'm probably having, and dying 100 times for every one kill is generally indicative of the sort of corp in which I'd have no fun. In the case of e-honour, pirating, suicide ganking and what I term "passive" spying--that is, strategic spying, not tactical; a 72-hour timeframe of applicability, not a 60-second one--are A-OK. Below that, I won't fly alongside people who noob-bait (i.e., in starter systems), are corp thieves, who use something like a log server reader, the alternate models hack, or the GoonFleet Local hack, who exploit 8/10 complexes, who sell ISK for RL cash, who knowingly harbor and abet those who've unrepentantly hacked, exploited, or done any of the other things listed, and so forth.
In any case, at the end of the day, the best recruitment teaser ever is, "We have more fun than your average group." At the moment, that's BoB and company. Once BoB has freed MC of the shackles of holding space, I'm sure that, after a little while to reorganize, that'll be MC once again, too. Good luck on making that transition with grace and aplomb, and without the finger-pointing, allegations of cheating or CCP bias, mass resignations, and stupid forum hangers-ons' shitposts that tend to accompany it.
--P
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Taguchi
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting to see MC trying to look all honorable etc, accusing BoB for "playing dirty".
About 5 months ago when tortuga begun, they were all "we are merc so we do anything it takes!", siding with the RAgoon onslaught and abandoning their former friends and allies of years in the region. Oh, how time has changed, as former FIX I wish you guys die a miserable death (in EvE, that is).  |
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